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		<title>By: Corey Curwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Curwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,
You say that hard money is a &quot;scam&quot; but in some cases it actually works out to be cheaper to use hard money rather than bring in a partner that will take the lion share of the deal. 

For example, let&#039;s say you&#039;re buying a commercial building for $1MM that is valued at $2MM. You will need to bring in at a minimum 30% down towards the purchase, sometimes more depending on the lender. However, what if the property needs rehab? Not to mention all of the other expenses involved in getting a commercial property up and running. If you don&#039;t have the cash to float it yourself you have 3 options in this market:
1. Go to a family member to get the cash 
2. Bring in a partner
3. Go to a private lender or hard money lender to get the cash

Now in most cases, bringing in family to a business deal is not even an option. 

The second option, bring in a partner, is viable but how much of your equity is this partner going to want for his/her cash contribution? Probably a lot more than their short term cash is really worth. Not to mention, you can&#039;t just get rid of your partner once you pay him/her back their cash. Oh no, these people stick around like bugs on a light at night. Partners just don&#039;t go away. You would probably end up giving this partner somewhere between 45-65% of the equity in that property, not to mention a cut of the cash flow once it starts producing. You aren&#039;t going to get a partner in this deal that will accept a mere 8% per year!! You&#039;re dreaming with this option.

Ok, now to option number three. Bring in a hard money lender. Now let&#039;s say you got a &quot;hard&quot; money lender to give you a loan at 13% and 5 points. That&#039;s only 13% APR. Again, that&#039;s APR of ONLY THE CASH YOU BORROWED, nothing more. Now that 5 points, that&#039;s going to be 5% of your equity in that building right out of the blocks. So let&#039;s say worst case scenario you pay your hard money lender off in 2 years. And let&#039;s say he loaned you $450,000 towards the purchase, rehab, and upkeep of your $2MM commercial building that you got for $1MM. After 2 years, you&#039;ve paid this hard money lender only the interest on the $450K and 5% of the $450K which is a whopping $22,500. The best part is that your hard money lender is OUT of the deal. He gets no part of the cash flow and only a tiny bit of your entire equity in the deal. No strings attached. Shake hands and walk away. For a loan of $450K from a partner, you may as well kiss $500K of your $1MM in equity goodbye. 

I think you need to do the numbers and reconsider your options. You will not be able to find a &quot;private lender&quot; in this market that will give you their cash that is in extremely high demand for 8% and no points. I can almost guarantee you that. Hard money lenders have a bad name but obviously, if you do the math and consider your options, its better than bringing a partner into the deal!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,<br />
You say that hard money is a &#8220;scam&#8221; but in some cases it actually works out to be cheaper to use hard money rather than bring in a partner that will take the lion share of the deal. </p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re buying a commercial building for $1MM that is valued at $2MM. You will need to bring in at a minimum 30% down towards the purchase, sometimes more depending on the lender. However, what if the property needs rehab? Not to mention all of the other expenses involved in getting a commercial property up and running. If you don&#8217;t have the cash to float it yourself you have 3 options in this market:<br />
1. Go to a family member to get the cash<br />
2. Bring in a partner<br />
3. Go to a private lender or hard money lender to get the cash</p>
<p>Now in most cases, bringing in family to a business deal is not even an option. </p>
<p>The second option, bring in a partner, is viable but how much of your equity is this partner going to want for his/her cash contribution? Probably a lot more than their short term cash is really worth. Not to mention, you can&#8217;t just get rid of your partner once you pay him/her back their cash. Oh no, these people stick around like bugs on a light at night. Partners just don&#8217;t go away. You would probably end up giving this partner somewhere between 45-65% of the equity in that property, not to mention a cut of the cash flow once it starts producing. You aren&#8217;t going to get a partner in this deal that will accept a mere 8% per year!! You&#8217;re dreaming with this option.</p>
<p>Ok, now to option number three. Bring in a hard money lender. Now let&#8217;s say you got a &#8220;hard&#8221; money lender to give you a loan at 13% and 5 points. That&#8217;s only 13% APR. Again, that&#8217;s APR of ONLY THE CASH YOU BORROWED, nothing more. Now that 5 points, that&#8217;s going to be 5% of your equity in that building right out of the blocks. So let&#8217;s say worst case scenario you pay your hard money lender off in 2 years. And let&#8217;s say he loaned you $450,000 towards the purchase, rehab, and upkeep of your $2MM commercial building that you got for $1MM. After 2 years, you&#8217;ve paid this hard money lender only the interest on the $450K and 5% of the $450K which is a whopping $22,500. The best part is that your hard money lender is OUT of the deal. He gets no part of the cash flow and only a tiny bit of your entire equity in the deal. No strings attached. Shake hands and walk away. For a loan of $450K from a partner, you may as well kiss $500K of your $1MM in equity goodbye. </p>
<p>I think you need to do the numbers and reconsider your options. You will not be able to find a &#8220;private lender&#8221; in this market that will give you their cash that is in extremely high demand for 8% and no points. I can almost guarantee you that. Hard money lenders have a bad name but obviously, if you do the math and consider your options, its better than bringing a partner into the deal!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think private money and hard money is the same thing. Hard money lenders are working with private investor money to make their loans.

As an investor the goal is to bypass the hard money lender by working directly with private money investors.

Some private money investors are happy with 8% and no points. Hard money is a scam by itself. HM lenders charges outrageous rates and points.

I never worked with a HM lender and never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think private money and hard money is the same thing. Hard money lenders are working with private investor money to make their loans.</p>
<p>As an investor the goal is to bypass the hard money lender by working directly with private money investors.</p>
<p>Some private money investors are happy with 8% and no points. Hard money is a scam by itself. HM lenders charges outrageous rates and points.</p>
<p>I never worked with a HM lender and never will.</p>
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